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. >> but no one knows -- >> be it the middle east or be it syria or be it north korea. so my final point is this. you had your say. >> i was waving off bob. final point. >> just stay out of the way. go ahead. >> the president should not let people hang out there. >> right. >> if he is inclined to think they're good, he should appoint them, and he should fight for them. just letting them hang out there and then be destroyed by naysayers and particularly people who are attacking hagel who are really, i think, vicious is shameful. >> i agree. >> zbigniew, you say there is a division between the white house and the state department on foreign policy. as you well know, there always is. that is almost -- >> that's not the point. >> but -- >> that's not the point. >> what is the point? >> the point is there may be differences of opinion between state and the white house, but in some administrations, either the white house is clearly preponderant or herely secretary of state is preponderant. >> think about nixon and kissinger where there was a harmony, but also i think hillary clinton has pushed a bigge
of the munchkins, michael steele. >> absolutely. pass the doughnuts. >> we start with syria, a country coming apart at the seams. president obama a couple days ago making a fairly remarkable statement that we are now with the opposition despite the fact that we don't know exactly who the opposition is. >> we're with the oppositions in the plural. it's a very splintered opposition. coalition's almost too good of a word. the united states has thrown in its political lot with them. militarily things are beginning to tilt increasingly in the direction of the opposition against the government. we saw now the government is shooting off scud missiles, old ballistic missiles which are essentially terror weapons. you shoot them off, you don't know where they'll come down. some come down in civilian areas. they're not militarily significant, but this is the beginning of a slow end game. >> richard, i was just going to ask, what is assad's end game, and should he not be contacting the russians right now saying in russian, guys, get me the hell out of here? >> that day is going to come. the russians can accele
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